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Post by Bangor on Jan 10, 2006 0:06:32 GMT -5
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Well, I've done a great deal of research into the other fencing, sword combat (live steel, blunted steel, and wood), and Larp combat with rattan, foam, and latex swords.
Armor usage in each form differs greatly, for various reasons. Some need it, some don't. Some have it just for looks, some use it as part of an armoring system. In the end, I suggest it be fully allowed, as each system has built-in safeguards against injuries resultant from armor usage.
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Post by Iasin the Steward on Jan 10, 2006 0:11:01 GMT -5
Agreed, I do beliee though that they should also allow the manufatured swords likea t Forgotten Realms, Ex-caliber, and Iron Liege. It would be nice to see a more realistic look on the field, could bring alot more people. The draw back would be that groups would have to start creating a training regime for the nubs.
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Post by Bangor on Jan 10, 2006 0:16:36 GMT -5
The problem is that those realistic swords are not as safe as the cloth covered foam variants, and tend to break down more quickly. They do look hella sweet though. Larps that are light on combat and heavy on roleplay tend to use them.
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Post by Iasin the Steward on Jan 10, 2006 0:22:32 GMT -5
Im wondering if a person with the right skills and materials could change that?
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Post by Lord Reilloc Kram on Jan 10, 2006 0:24:57 GMT -5
i havent heard of nero for a long time. wow bring back some memories there
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Post by Bangor on Jan 10, 2006 0:26:26 GMT -5
I've been looking at using printing-press technology to make more appealing covers for our foam weapons and shields. It looks cost-effective, but it is a bit pricey for Amtgard. The other problem is finding someone who can silk-screen for a full length sword.
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Post by Lord Reilloc Kram on Jan 10, 2006 0:28:12 GMT -5
had you thought on vinyl coverings its cheap and easy to apply?
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Post by Iasin the Steward on Jan 10, 2006 0:31:47 GMT -5
The types of blows I have heard of in Amtgard and Dagorhir would probably destroy vinyl fast.
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Post by Bangor on Jan 10, 2006 0:40:06 GMT -5
yeah, folks have tried that, and spray-on coverings, but both break down fast.
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Post by Lord Reilloc Kram on Jan 10, 2006 0:42:09 GMT -5
the type of vinyl they put on cars and things??? id of thought that would be tougher. well it was a thought.
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Post by Bangor on Jan 10, 2006 0:56:08 GMT -5
Vinyl tears in ways that cloth does not. Just look at the way it cracks in old cars, then look at the crusty cloth seats. The seats may have soda, food, weed, and diaper stains, but no cracks! Scienmotific!
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Post by Lord Reilloc Kram on Jan 11, 2006 0:12:43 GMT -5
lol fair enough
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Post by Lord Reilloc Kram on Jan 12, 2006 11:22:12 GMT -5
but on the other hand good ole fashioned duck tape can come in many different colours and if applied correctly will last for a long time pluse it is cheap and easy
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Post by Iasin the Steward on Jan 12, 2006 13:56:23 GMT -5
I wouldlike someone to find out who allows platic armor in thier LARP combat. Post it under an appropriate title.
I am starting a new topic for this subject.
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Post by chief on Jan 16, 2006 17:57:01 GMT -5
Im wondering if a person with the right skills and materials could change that? Without question. Hey, I popped in from the Dagorhir boards. The reason most commercial latex weapons are not great for hard contact combat is two fold: 1: In an attempt for a totally realistic look, the weapon makers skip on material and core quality. This makes for a movie quality prop, but that does not do us much good in the hobby. 2: When many of the weapon makers started to push to a U.S. Market, the U.S. players complained the weapons hit too hard. In turn, the makers made softer weapons. Softer weapons feel nice in inspection, but are not as safe and break down at an alarming rate. Sadly U.S. LARPs tend to replace the idea of safety with comfort, and this is just flawed thinking. It is possible to build latex weapons that are not only safe, but long lasting, and without any of that nice realistic feel. Not to say that latex is the holy grail of weapon making. They look nice, handle well, and are top in durability, but they also take longer to make, require more practice time to build, and need a bit more upkeep. My own weapons are a mix of latex and cloth, but I use the same exact foam and construction techniques for both. Magnus
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Post by Iasin the Steward on Jan 16, 2006 19:50:45 GMT -5
First off thanks for stopping by Magnus, I've seen you at the Dag website. You are defiantely welcome here.
On the note of latex weapons. If you have some ideas to increase the 'safety' without the look, let me know, my ears are wide open.
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Post by chief on Jan 16, 2006 20:08:14 GMT -5
I noticed a typo in my post when I read this. I meant to say you can have both safety and durability, without losing the cool look.
I can't remember, are you allowed to link outside this site?
If so I can just link people to my tutorial.
Magnus
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Post by Iasin the Steward on Jan 16, 2006 21:17:49 GMT -5
Yes, anything goes on these forums. Link away all you want.
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Post by chief on Jan 16, 2006 21:21:39 GMT -5
This is my tutorial that I worked up for latex weapons. At the end is what I call a "blade upgrade" for hard contact LARPs, but I actually recommend them for all weapons. www.adventuresinmidland.com/sword.shtmlThe basics in this book will allow the foam smith to expand into almost any weapon. I don't recommend latex weapons for mass weapons like barrel maces. The foam takes forever to soften up and hits too hard off the bench. Magnus
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Post by Iasin the Steward on Jan 16, 2006 21:42:51 GMT -5
very interesteing tutuorial.. PErhaps you should make soe and sell em online. Or when we get up and running you may have a job for us to hire on.
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